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Old Jul 11th 2016, 09:04 PM
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In the late Soviet era, in the latter half of the 1980s, there was a plan to build a TV tower in the city of Ekaterinburg, in the Ural Mountains. But in 1991, after the USSR collapsed and disbanded, the project itself ran out of money.

The huge, unfinished, abandoned tower stood there ever since



To the locals, it is a nasty eye sore, at this point, and worse, a place where homeless individuals seem to congregate, sleeping around open campfires on the ground floor, and people can be seen drinking alcohol and using narcotics, and purchasing cheap street sex. Reportedly, over the years, many depressed, desperate youths have gone there to commit suicide by jumping off the top floors of the tower... Supposedly, their spirits still haunt the tower. The area is essentially cursed now, for all intents and purposes, and avoided by decent people.

Now, however, there is a new plan to bring it back to spiritual health, or something to that effect...

A group close to our Orthodox Church wants to turn the derelict tower into... a giant cathedral!


http://www.pravmir.com/unfinished-tv...herine-church/

The project now has the support of Archpiest Vsevolod Chaplin

a former Head of External Relations and still an influential figure in the Russian Orthodox Church.

He was forced to resign as Head of ER in December, reportedly over certain "differences" with Patriarch Kirill

Basically, Chaplin, who leads the Church's most conservative faction, began saying things, as not only himself but as the public face of the Church, that were just a bit too crazy even for Kirill. About setting up special concentration camps for LGBTs, in the Far North. Things like that.

So, they moved him out of the spotlight and replaced him with a more reasonable guy. But, he did not actually go anywhere otherwise, Kirill could not just kick him out of the Church altogether, because, unfortunately, his mad ramblings have their fans too, he has many supporters, among the faithful and even the clergy within the Church as well, too many, in fact, for the Church to ignore or alienate...

And now, he is endorsing this thing: https://translate.google.ca/translat...ni&prev=search

And they may have to indulge him on it... Will be very interesting, to be sure. If it is indeed built, it will be the easily the tallest cathedral not just in Russia, but whole Orthodox world; whole Christian world probably...

Needless to say, many atheists and secularists in Yekaterinburg are, obviously, hardly thrilled about, potentially, this Christian monstrosity towering over the city, looking down upon all of them as inferiors Even some Orthodox do not like it, say it borders on idolatry. I feel that too, honestly... It is too much.
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Old Jul 11th 2016, 10:23 PM
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Architecturally, I quite like it actually.
Might cost a bundle though.
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Old Jul 11th 2016, 10:44 PM
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Architecturally, I quite like it actually.
Might cost a bundle though.
The Church is very rich
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Architecturally, I quite like it actually.
Might cost a bundle though.
Agreed - on both points!

It is a rather good looking design proposal. But curved buildings are definitely outrageously expensive to build and tend to have very high on-going maintenance costs way beyond normal buildings.

Btw, Canada has a museum up in Ottawa with curved walls all the way around. It is an obscene sinkhole for taxpayer money - with replacement windows costing like $40,000 each, and it has serious roof leaking problems that haven't gone away after several expensive repair jobs. Some analysts have suggested it might be cheaper to just bulldoze the building and build a normal one rather than keep pouring money into it.
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Old Jul 12th 2016, 09:26 PM
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Agreed - on both points!

It is a rather good looking design proposal. But curved buildings are definitely outrageously expensive to build and tend to have very high on-going maintenance costs way beyond normal buildings.

Btw, Canada has a museum up in Ottawa with curved walls all the way around. It is an obscene sinkhole for taxpayer money - with replacement windows costing like $40,000 each, and it has serious roof leaking problems that haven't gone away after several expensive repair jobs. Some analysts have suggested it might be cheaper to just bulldoze the building and build a normal one rather than keep pouring money into it.
Curved buildings are usually a problem with leakage because they don't allow for proper drainage and account for snow slump. Like the Peter B. Lewis Building in Cleveland (curved interior also made it harder to stop a shooter about 15 years ago).



Personally I'm not wild about the building in the picture, at least the lower part, but I bet it would slick snow no problem.
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Curved buildings are usually a problem with leakage because they don't allow for proper drainage and account for snow slump. Like the Peter B. Lewis Building in Cleveland (curved interior also made it harder to stop a shooter about 15 years ago).



Personally I'm not wild about the building in the picture, at least the lower part, but I bet it would slick snow no problem.
That building is an eyesore! The Sydney opera house was enough, and enough is enough.

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That building is an eyesore! The Sydney opera house was enough, and enough is enough.

Function before form.
Eh. It looks kind of cool in the context of the campus, but it's not a very functional design.
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Old Aug 5th 2016, 01:30 PM
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I like buildings that spiral and twist around. Our Moskva City business center has a skyscraper like that





Looks very interesting, IMHO
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