Home-grown national coaches

[Americano]

Originally Posted by Donkey

That's a ludicrous comparison.

At any rate an immigrant is someone who comes to stay, legal status notwithstanding.



No. You're simply wrong. Undocumented immigrant, undocumented alien, etc. are the correct and LEGAL definition. Talk to any immigration lawyer.

"Illegal immigrant" is a made up pejorative and its use denotes either ignorance or racism.

Undocumented alien I'll accept. DOJ, ICE and IRS all use alien with regard to legislated law. As do lawyers defending/prosecuting non-US citizens. The rest is politically correct conversation fodder.

[Donkey]

Originally Posted by Americano

Undocumented alien I'll accept. DOJ, ICE and IRS all use alien with regard to legislated law. As do lawyers defending/prosecuting non-US citizens. The rest is politically correct conversation fodder.

I couldn't possibly care less whether or not you accept it. Alien wasn't the word I was objecting to.

[NickKIELCEPoland]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

I am aware of that. Good for them. But, imagine, if your native population is not good at a particular sport.

Then they should not do well in that sport's world championship - if they did, then things would be ridiculous.

[NickKIELCEPoland]

Harry Redknapp will almost certainly be the next permanent coach of England.

But the big question is...

Who will be coach for Euro 2012???
Will it be Redknapp, even though he's continuing with Tottenham until the end of the season?

Or will it be Stuart Pearce?

[NickKIELCEPoland]

In a month and a half Euro 2012 kicks off in Poland and Ukraine, and we the public are still none the wiser as to who will lead England out onto the pitch.

But it is almost certain that it will be an Englishman that leads England out, and that will be the first time in a final tournament, since 2000.

[Donkey]

A random thought on this topic. One positive thing about bringing in coaches from other countries/regions, is it keeps the game interesting. They bring styles of play with them.

I think that it's pretty fascinating to watch the chess-match of shifting styles. As the south American heavy hitters have picked up on the hard, fast, cut throat Euro style of football so they can take down the Germans and the Brits, they sometimes get a surprise hamstringing from one of the littler SA teams playing the slow dance.

Fun stuff.

[NickKIELCEPoland]

Today, it is likely that Roy Hodgson (64) will be appointed the England coach.
Roy is English, from Croydon (south London), and he has been enjoying success as a manager since 1976.
I think he is a national treasure and will do brilliantly with England.
His first test will be in June this year, with the European Championships.

[NickKIELCEPoland]

Originally Posted by NickKIELCEPoland

Spain won the World CUp, and every single player was born in Spain. So they didn't buy anything. They earned it.

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

I am aware of that. Good for them. But, imagine, if your native population is not good at a particular sport. Just, not good at it, by nature. So, think this in your mind, this is, shall we say, my perfect vision: if Russia and Brazil could exchange some of their soccer talent for some of our hockey skills, trade our hockey players for their footballers, both our nations would benefit greatly. We'd become powerhouses in both sports

Originally Posted by NickKIELCEPoland

Never mind what CAN happen - look at what DOES happen - and as long as it continues to happen, let me enjoy it.

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Do enjoy it, for as long as it lasts. But what I outlined above is the future, I promise you

Here you made a prediction in February 2012, nearly five years ago. I have found out that the Portuguese starting 11 in the European Championsip final this year, which they won, 6 players were born in Portugal, while 5 were born outside Portugal. And among the three substitutes, one of them was born outside Portugal and he was the matchwinner, scoring a great goal, the only goal of the match.

This would indicate that you were right, and I congratulate you, if indeed you were right, this stat isn't conclusive, but it does indicate that you could be right.

However, I must point out that some of the foreign-born players grew up in Portugual. Also, the rule is that a player can only represent one country competitively in his/her career, which is a rule that many sports don't have. I'm glad football has that rule.

However, I can't deny that your prediction is supported by the above stat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2016_Final

[NickKIELCEPoland]

Interim England coach Gareth Southgate has now taken charge of two matches, a win (2-0) at home against Malta, and a draw (0-0) away against Slovenia. Slovenia didn't quality for Euro 2016, and neither did Malta. Southgate's CV is in my opinion, absolutely not good enough for him to be given a contract. Eddie Howe has dpme brilliantly with Bournemouth, taking them up two divisions to the top dicision, in only three seasons. He or Alan Pardew, who took Newcastle to 5th place, and has taken West Ham and Crystal Palace to FA Cup runner-up places are, in my opinion, the best English candidates.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by NickKIELCEPoland

Here you made a prediction in February 2012, nearly five years ago. I have found out that the Portuguese starting 11 in the European Championsip final this year, which they won, 6 players were born in Portugal, while 5 were born outside Portugal. And among the three substitutes, one of them was born outside Portugal and he was the matchwinner, scoring a great goal, the only goal of the match.

This would indicate that you were right, and I congratulate you, if indeed you were right, this stat isn't conclusive, but it does indicate that you could be right.

However, I must point out that some of the foreign-born players grew up in Portugual. Also, the rule is that a player can only represent one country competitively in his/her career, which is a rule that many sports don't have. I'm glad football has that rule.

However, I can't deny that your prediction is supported by the above stat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2016_Final

Thanks for congratulations. I honestly barely follow football anymore. No point. Not a sport any Russian will ever do well in, so no need to bother watching it