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Old Aug 7th 2012, 07:02 PM
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Russia now 5th overall:

10 18 20

China 1st, USA 2nd, Britain 3d, South Korea 4th.
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Russia now 5th overall:

10 18 20

China 1st, USA 2nd, Britain 3d, South Korea 4th.
Well done, Russia.
My gloating is beginning to make me look silly.
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Old Aug 11th 2012, 08:46 PM
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Well done, Russia.
My gloating is beginning to make me look silly.
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Russia now 4th: 21 25 32

May even catch up to Britain, with their 28 Golds. We have more Silver then them anyway, and more Bronze than any other country

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Saturday, August 11, 2012 Lashmanova sets 20km Race Walk World record in London!


Elena Lashmanova of Russia won the gold medal in the Women's 20km Walk of the London 2012 Olympic Games on the streets of London on August 11, 2012 (Getty Images)


ll good things must come to an end - even one of the longest-running reigns as a global champion in athletics.

Not only was Olga Kaniskina the defending champion, but she had won the past three World titles in the 20km Race Walk too. Put simply, she is one of the most dominant athletes in the world.

But the World Cup earlier this year where Kaniskina was beaten by younger team-mate Yelena Lashmanova gave a glimpse of what was to come at the London Olympics, and in a sensational finish, Kaniskina found herself being overtaken once more by the new star of the race walking world, who produced the third athletics World record of the London Olympics.

Kaniskina wasted no time as she shot into the lead from the outset. World silver medallist Liu Hong spotted the danger and made up the distance as the pair went through the first two kilometre lap in 8:33. They remained at each others' side for the next few kilometres, and as they went through 6km together in 25:32, it soon became clear that they were operating at World record pace.

Liu was unable to stick with Kaniskina for much longer, however, and the Russian began to open up a gap as she maintained her relentless pace. By this point a chase pack had formed, albeit a relatively small one given that it was still early on in the race. But in that pack were the other team-mates of both Kaniskina and Liu Russia's Lashmanova and Anisya Kirdyapkina, and Chinese pair Qieyang Shenjie and Lu Xiuzhi.

Kaniskina continued to churn out the 8:30 laps of the 2km circuit as she went through halfway in 42:33. Liu was some 17 seconds behind as the chase pack were beginning to eat into the deficit. With thousands of fans lining The Mall near Buckingham palace to cheer the athletes on, Kaniskina's lead just grew and grew. Liu, meanwhile, drifted back and she was caught by the chase pack now down to three just after the 12-kilometre point.

But then Lashmanova began to make her move. Tracked closely by Qieyang between 14km and 16km, Lashmanova produced an 8:24 lap to eat into Kaniskina's lead. Perhaps sensing that her lead was under threat, Kaniskina covered the next lap in 8:27 her fastest of the race but Lashmanova and Qieyang were even quicker with an 8:20 lap as Kaniskina's leading margin once again decreased.

The increase in speed meant that Kaniskina was back on World record pace, but Lashmanova was accelerating at a quicker rate. With just one kilometre to go, the teenager had moved to within a couple of seconds of Kaniskina. The contrast in styles between the pair was notable Kaniskina, gritting her teeth with exaggerated movement from side-to-side; and Lashmanova, the taller of the pair looking cool and relaxed, ready to pounce when the moment was right.

And pounce she did, moving past Kaniskina with just 100 metres to go. She pulled clear and crossed the line in 1:25:02, breaking the World record in just her third ever race over the distance, and becoming the youngest ever Olympic champion in a race walking event. Kaniskina held on for silver in 1:25:09 with Qieyang setting an Asian record of 1:25:16 for the bronze medal.

China and Russia filled the top six spots between them, as the first five dipped inside the previous Olympic record. Having seen her team-mate break her Asian record one place ahead, Liu finished fourth (1:26:00) with Kirdyapkina in fifth and Lu sixth. With four women at 1:26 or quicker, eight under 1:28 and 15 under 1:30, it was the highest-quality women's 20km ever at the Olympics.

It should be noted that there are two faster performances in history than Lashmanova's World record 1:24:50 by Olimpiada Ivanova and 1:24:56 by Kaniskina. But these were both set in Russia without the required number of international officials and so were not ratified as World records.

"This morning I would never have imagined something like this I would never have imagined such an outcome," said a delighted Lashmanova.

"At the start I was not sure about how I was feeling. During most of the race, I was at such a distance from the lead that I was losing heart, but at each lap my trainer told me to keep calm, to keep quiet and to press on, to not give up.

"I continued and at the last lap I saw the others were tired and falling behind, so I accelerated and took my chance," she added. "But not until I crossed the line did I think I would get a medal."

Meanwhile, Kaniskina was gracious in defeat. "It wasn't very lucky for me to lose the race at the last minute, and it's difficult for me to deal with," she said. "I am very pleased for my teammate though, she deserved it."
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This is interesting for me, because I do not know much about this sport. I always thought race walking was easy, it is simply walking after all, not like race running, where you really have to race against people. But I am told it is not as simple and easy as it looks on TV
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Russia now 4th: 21 25 32

May even catch up to Britain, with their 28 Golds. We have more Silver then them anyway, and more Bronze than any other country

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http://www.iaaf.org/Mini/OLY12/News/....aspx?id=67455

This is interesting for me, because I do not know much about this sport. I always thought race walking was easy, it is simply walking after all, not like race running, where you really have to race against people. But I am told it is not as simple and easy as it looks on TV
Russia have not done particularly well.
Grenada have done brilliantly.
They've won 1 gold and have 100,000 people. That's 10 golds per million.

Russia have won about 0.15 golds per million.

So Grenada have done brilliantly.

New Zealand have got 1.33 golds per million, so they are second after Grenada.

But Grenada are the best.

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This is interesting for me, because I do not know much about this sport. I always thought race walking was easy, it is simply walking after all, not like race running, where you really have to race against people. But I am told it is not as simple and easy as it looks on TV
You call it race walking, yet later you say that it's not like a sport where you have to race against people - can you see the non-logic of that statement.

If a sport involves competing, then the only things that determine how hard it is to be world champion, is the effort put in by your competitors and the number of people who take part in that sport.
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Old Aug 12th 2012, 12:20 AM
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Russia have not done particularly well.
Grenada have done brilliantly.
They've won 1 gold and have 100,000 people. That's 10 golds per million.

Russia have won about 0.15 golds per million.

So Grenada have done brilliantly.

New Zealand have got 1.33 golds per million, so they are second after Grenada.

But Grenada are the best.
In that case, South Ossetia, with a population of maybe 70,000 (including several thousands Russian military personnel) must be best wrestlers on Earth, their Denis Tsargush took a Bronze for Russia just yesterday
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In that case, South Ossetia, with a population of maybe 70,000 (including several thousands Russian military personnel) must be best wrestlers on Earth, their Denis Tsargush took a Bronze for Russia just yesterday
Why not go even further - why not talk about the street which Denis Tsargush grew up in. That street must be absolutely fantastic.

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Russia now 4th: 21 25 32

May even catch up to Britain, with their 28 Golds. We have more Silver then them anyway, and more Bronze than any other country

In other related news



http://www.iaaf.org/Mini/OLY12/News/NewsDetail.aspx?id=67455

This is interesting for me, because I do not know much about this sport. I always thought race walking was easy, it is simply walking after all, not like race running, where you really have to race against people. But I am told it is not as simple and easy as it looks on TV
Russia have not done particularly well.
Grenada have done brilliantly.
They've won 1 gold and have 100,000 people. That's 10 golds per million.

Russia have won about 0.15 golds per million.

So Grenada have done brilliantly.

New Zealand have got 1.33 golds per million, so they are second after Grenada.

But Grenada are the best.

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Indeed

This is interesting for me, because I do not know much about this sport. I always thought race walking was easy, it is simply walking after all, not like race running, where you really have to race against people. But I am told it is not as simple and easy as it looks on TV
You call it race walking, yet later you say that it's not like a sport where you have to race against people - can you see the non-logic of that statement.

If a sport involves competing, then the only things that determine how hard it is to be world champion, is the effort put in by your competitors and the number of people who take part in that sport.
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Old Aug 12th 2012, 12:27 AM
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Why not go even further - why not talk about the street which Denis Tsargush grew up in. That street must be absolutely fantastic.


Russia have not done particularly well.
Grenada have done brilliantly.
They've won 1 gold and have 100,000 people. That's 10 golds per million.

Russia have won about 0.15 golds per million.

So Grenada have done brilliantly.

New Zealand have got 1.33 golds per million, so they are second after Grenada.

But Grenada are the best.



You call it race walking, yet later you say that it's not like a sport where you have to race against people - can you see the non-logic of that statement.

If a sport involves competing, then the only things that determine how hard it is to be world champion, is the effort put in by your competitors and the number of people who take part in that sport.
I admitted being ignorant about the sport
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I admitted being ignorant about the sport
My point was nothing to do with ignorance, but with lack of logic.
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