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Old Oct 5th 2014, 06:53 PM
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I had a situation that surprised me and I couldn't figure out why it worked out the way it did.

1. I'm the King of England. England has primogeniture inheritance rules.
2. King marries a Princess of Aquitaine.
3. They have two sons (plus some daughters).
4. Wife inherits the Kingdom of Aquitaine (K_Aquitaine, D_Aquitaine plus 2 counties and a barony in Aquitaine) - becomes Queen of Aquitaine.
5. Kingdom of Aquitaine has Gavelkind inheritance rules.
6. King dies and number one son inherits the English crown estate
7. Dowager Queen eventually dies and the same son inherits the Kingdom, Duchy, both Counties of Aquitaine and the barony (to add to the English collection). Second son got nothing.

I figured that the English crown and the English crown estate would go to son#1. That makes sense.

But when the Queen of Aquitaine died, her estate (kingdom, duchy & 2 counties) should have followed Gavelkind rules - I figure that means the kingdom of Aquitaine, duchy and 1 county would go to the 1st born male, then the 2nd county (and maybe the barony) would go to the 2nd born male.

The Aquitaine inheritance all went to the first born male. Can anyone explain this? This was a first/only marriage, both sons were of the same mother/father.
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Old Oct 8th 2014, 11:55 AM
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I had a situation that surprised me and I couldn't figure out why it worked out the way it did.

1. I'm the King of England. England has primogeniture inheritance rules.
2. King marries a Princess of Aquitaine.
3. They have two sons (plus some daughters).
4. Wife inherits the Kingdom of Aquitaine (K_Aquitaine, D_Aquitaine plus 2 counties and a barony in Aquitaine) - becomes Queen of Aquitaine.
5. Kingdom of Aquitaine has Gavelkind inheritance rules.
6. King dies and number one son inherits the English crown estate
7. Dowager Queen eventually dies and the same son inherits the Kingdom, Duchy, both Counties of Aquitaine and the barony (to add to the English collection). Second son got nothing.

I figured that the English crown and the English crown estate would go to son#1. That makes sense.

But when the Queen of Aquitaine died, her estate (kingdom, duchy & 2 counties) should have followed Gavelkind rules - I figure that means the kingdom of Aquitaine, duchy and 1 county would go to the 1st born male, then the 2nd county (and maybe the barony) would go to the 2nd born male.

The Aquitaine inheritance all went to the first born male. Can anyone explain this? This was a first/only marriage, both sons were of the same mother/father.
Was son #2 excommunicated? Sometimes that does wonky things with succession.
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Old Oct 8th 2014, 07:43 PM
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Was son #2 excommunicated? Sometimes that does wonky things with succession.
No, nothing unusual at all. Not nominated for a bishop either. Not married.

I thought for sure he'd get a title out of it.
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