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Old Nov 8th 2011, 11:22 PM
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Now you're anthropomorphizing.
I don't know what that means.
I don't know what that means.

The Drunk Girl, all I know is that it's the thinking and self-awareness which I consider the amazing part of life. Even if plants have something that classes them as life, big deal, if they can't think and be self-aware.
What would you consider the biggest news story "forest found on Mars" or "Mosquito found on Mars"? I bet if they found a forest, the first thing they would do, would be to search and search for any animal.
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Old Nov 9th 2011, 12:02 AM
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I don't know what that means.
I don't know what that means.

The Drunk Girl, all I know is that it's the thinking and self-awareness which I consider the amazing part of life. Even if plants have something that classes them as life, big deal, if they can't think and be self-aware.
What would you consider the biggest news story "forest found on Mars" or "Mosquito found on Mars"? I bet if they found a forest, the first thing they would do, would be to search and search for any animal.
There would likely be no Mosquito without the forest.
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Old Nov 9th 2011, 12:43 AM
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There would likely be no Mosquito without the forest.
I've already said that I'm aware that animals can't live without plants. They can't live without oxygen either.
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Old Nov 9th 2011, 12:46 AM
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I've already said that I'm aware that animals can't live without plants. They can't live without oxygen either.
At the early stages of life on earth, Oxygen was a toxin.
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Old Nov 9th 2011, 12:50 AM
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At the early stages of life on earth, Oxygen was a toxin.
Well, I've already said that I know animals can't live without plants - I'd still not feel that we had company if they found trees, but no animals on another planet.
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Old Nov 9th 2011, 12:54 AM
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Well, I've already said that I know animals can't live without plants - I'd still not feel that we had company if they found trees, but no animals on another planet.
"Company" is a pretty subjective term.

Less so "life."
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I don't know what that means.
I don't know what that means.

The Drunk Girl, all I know is that it's the thinking and self-awareness which I consider the amazing part of life. Even if plants have something that classes them as life, big deal, if they can't think and be self-aware.
What would you consider the biggest news story "forest found on Mars" or "Mosquito found on Mars"? I bet if they found a forest, the first thing they would do, would be to search and search for any animal.
Much like this topic, if you don't know or understand something then look it up.

Second, you're opinion of thinking and being self aware of what's amazing in life is far different than your OP. I think it would be better for you to concede than to try and backtrack, leading to you digging yourself a deeper hole further confusing yourself and others with your logic.
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Old Nov 9th 2011, 01:39 AM
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Much like this topic, if you don't know or understand something then look it up.

Second, you're opinion of thinking and being self aware of what's amazing in life is far different than your OP. I think it would be better for you to concede than to try and backtrack, leading to you digging yourself a deeper hole further confusing yourself and others with your logic.
I didn't ask pramjockey for information, merely informed him that I didn't understand it. Must I look it up? I don't have to? Good.
Read properly - I never said anything about being aware of what's amazing in life.
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...the mosquito smells blood and thinks "yum yum, I'll have some of that"
Does it? How would you know?

A rock falls toward the ground when you drop it.
My car goes forward when I step on the gas pedal.
My leg kicks out when a doctor taps my patellar tendon (below the kneecap) in a reflex test.

But that doesn't mean that the rock thinks "oh, boy, I'll move down toward the ground now."
Or that my car thinks "I'm going to drive forward!"
Or that my leg thinks "Boy that felt funny; I suppose I'll kick now."


On the other hand: if allowed, a plant will grow toward its light-source, changing shape to expose more leaves to the light. Perhaps the plant is thinking ""yum yum, I'll have some of that?"
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Old Nov 9th 2011, 10:15 AM
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Does it? How would you know?

A rock falls toward the ground when you drop it.
My car goes forward when I step on the gas pedal.
My leg kicks out when a doctor taps my patellar tendon (below the kneecap) in a reflex test.

But that doesn't mean that the rock thinks "oh, boy, I'll move down toward the ground now."
Or that my car thinks "I'm going to drive forward!"
Or that my leg thinks "Boy that felt funny; I suppose I'll kick now."


On the other hand: if allowed, a plant will grow toward its light-source, changing shape to expose more leaves to the light. Perhaps the plant is thinking ""yum yum, I'll have some of that?"
I'll concede that mosquitoes may be a special case - but look at how angry bees get, and how they, and fish struggle to save their lives. I bet that even mosquitoes do this at a miniature level - you chop down the noblest of oak trees, and it's totally unarsed.
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