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Old Aug 13th 2011, 12:38 PM
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ok... It's an entirely average thriller...
Do you mean it's average as a thriller?
Or do you mean it's a thriller, and it's average as a novel?

There's a crucial difference.

As a novel, I think it is great, since it teaches us so much about science, in such a captivating way.
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Old Aug 13th 2011, 06:03 PM
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I think it is very important in this day and age.
It is a precedent giving comedians the right to joke about religion, even if it offends certain adherents to the religion in question.
Ever hear Eddie Izzard (Le Transvestite Executive!) take on the Church of England? Funny, funny duck!
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Old Aug 13th 2011, 06:10 PM
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Ever hear Eddie Izzard (Le Transvestite Executive!) take on the Church of England? Funny, funny duck!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfMEtl26G1E
I've just looked it up, and found the above link.
Not my cup of tea.
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Old Aug 13th 2011, 07:02 PM
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Do you mean it's average as a thriller?
Or do you mean it's a thriller, and it's average as a novel?

There's a crucial difference.

As a novel, I think it is great, since it teaches us so much about science, in such a captivating way.
I mean it's entirely average in every way imaginable

It is a novel, not a science book. If you want to learn about science read something scientific. If you want to read about history or theology then read history or theology.

And average isn't necessarily bad. There is a place and a time for average novels. It just is what it is.
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Old Aug 13th 2011, 07:25 PM
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I mean it's entirely average in every way imaginable

It is a novel, not a science book. If you want to learn about science read something scientific. If you want to read about history or theology then read history or theology.

And average isn't necessarily bad. There is a place and a time for average novels. It just is what it is.
If I read a text book on science, then I'd learn science, but wouldn't get the joy that a novel gives me.

What is great about Dan Brown's Deception Point (in my opinion) is that there is a combination of learning about science and enjoying a novel.
He's not perfect as a writer - that's definite. The language is too simplistic, and things go too fast. But he does teach me an incredible amount about science in Deception Point.
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It is a novel, not a science book. If you want to learn about science read something scientific. If you want to read about history or theology then read history or theology.
So true.
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I'm not hell-bent on becoming a scientist. But it is nice to be entertained and taught at the same time. And Dan Brown does that in Deception Point. Especially Micheal, who is interested in evolution, would enjoy Deception Point, I'm convinced.
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If someone who has read Deception Point still doesn't find Dan Brown's knowledge impressive, then please come forth.
Knowledge of what?
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Knowledge of what?
Astrophysics, oceanography and paleontology.
And what's more, anyone who reads the book will realise that it's not enough just to have access to the Internet - you have to have a personal indepth understanding of these subjects to be able to write this book and devise this plot.

Read it, and you'll understand.
Deception Point (Dan Brown)

And the reason I admire him so much is not just his knowledge, but the amazing way that he makes it so captivating for lay people.
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I'm a bit late to the party but would like to say that anyone who reads Dan Browns Da Vinci Code and thinks it's good should read Umberto Eco's Foucault's Pendulum. You'll never come anywhere near Dan Brown again.
Dan Brown is a great....plagiarizer. There's nothing, literally nothing, original in the Da Vinci Code. Some of those themes are literally a thousand years old. It's a random mish-mash of the occult tradition which Eco mocks so brilliantly.

I haven't -or ever will- read anything else from Dan Brown so I won't comment on other works.

Oh, and to learn about CERN, here's the place:
http://public.web.cern.ch/public/
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